Saturday, August 30, 2008

Post 21 - The Bible, The Complete Record of Christ's Words?

To Access This Blog's Index, Please Scroll Down To the Fifth Paragraph From the End of This Post!


In recent blog posts I have emphasized the importance of prophecy and revelation in the functioning of Jesus Christ's Church in all times of this world's history when His Church was established in various parts of this earth. As I have shown in previous posts in this blog, there have been prophets who have spoken the words of Christ which were recorded in the Bible, in the Book of Mormon and by Joseph Smith, Jr., a latter-day prophet of God who has spoken the words of Jesus Christ in our day. Also recorded are the words of those prophets who have each, in their turn, taken the place of the living prophet who presided in the Church before them.

Unfortunately, all of those words which were brought forth except for those which appear in the Holy Bible, are rejected by most, if not all of the Christian churches in the world today, the exception being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints whose headquarters are in Salt Lake City, Utah, in the United States of America.

As a young man of twenty years of age I was issued a call by the then prophet of the LDS Church, David O. McKay to serve a mission in Finland. I did not, at that time, speak Finnish, but was given a thirty month assignment to serve there which was an additional six months to what LDS missionaries were called to serve in English speaking missions of the Church, to give me adequate time to learn to read and speak Finnish, a quite difficult language to learn.

It was in November of 1952 that I, along with three other missionaries traveled by train from Salt Lake City, Utah to New York City, New York. We spent about three days there, in my case, my purpose there was to pick up the visa I needed to enter Finland and the visas the others each needed, to enter Sweden or Denmark.

One of the other two missionaries was a young man about twenty two or three years of age who was assigned to serve in Sweden. On our way to New York City he told me that he had converted to this church and that previously he had lived in the Bronx, New York and had been an active member of another Church.

This new member of this Church, we were both called to serve, asked me to be his companion on a visit he had planned with some members of his previous church. An appointment had been set by them for him to visit them at one of their apartments in the Bronx.

He and I went by Subway to the apartment where his former fellow church members were waiting for us.

Some degree of friendliness shown by them to him, but he was quite warm and open with them. I soon detected the others were angry that he had left their church and joined the Mormon Church. I was introduced to the other six or seven men of varying ages as his fellow Mormon missionary. He had told them beforehand of his call to serve in Sweden as a LDS missionary.

The meeting which lasted about an hour focused on how the LDS Church had to be a false church because it had a prophet who claimed to receive more of Christ's words and had the Book of Mormon which was alleged also to contain Christ's words.

One of them quoted Revelation 22:

18 For I (the Apostle, John) testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Several of his former church member friends indicated that this was proof positive that the Book of Mormon or any other latter-day scriptures or the words of those who we called Latter-day prophets were not the true words of Christ. They told my companion that they were sorry for him that the plagues that were mentioned by the Apostle John would descend upon him if they hadn't already done so.

In our week-long training in Salt Lake City we been prepared with the right responses to what had been said there. My companion told them that the words they had just read to us pertained just to the Book of Revelation and that although it was the last book in the Holy Bible, other books of the Bible were written after the Book of Revelation.

My companion told his former church member friends that there is a scripture in one of the Books of Moses that says the same thing as John said about not adding to that book. Obviously, many books of scripture had been added afterwards.
We were not successful and both of us felt sorry for them that they had closed their minds to the many additional words of Christ which are now available to bless mankind.

Last Sunday (I'm writing this on a Saturday evening, August 30, 2008) I had been asked to give our Melchizedek Priesthood lesson. (That's what members of this church do, take assignments to either lead, teach or serve in other ways, without financial compensation.

The lesson I was assigned to teach was based upon the speech of one of the Twelve Apostles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Elder Elder Jeffrey R. Holland had given in his Church General Conference in early April 2008.

I related to my male classmates the missionary experience I had in the Bronx, New York I just told you. I then had some of those in attendance , take turns reading from Elder Holland's talk, interspersing their reading with comments from me and other class members.
Photograph of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland - Ensign Magazine

After commenting on important events of that day in conference, Elder Holland began his talk by saying:
"We invite all to inquire into the wonder of what God has said since biblical times and is saying even now."
. . . In general conference last October, I said there were two principal reasons The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is accused, erroneously, of not being Christian. At that time I addressed one of those doctrinal issues—our scripturally based view of the Godhead. Today I would like to address the other major doctrine which characterizes our faith but which causes concern to some, namely the bold assertion that God continues to speak His word and reveal His truth, revelations which mandate an open canon of scripture."

"Some Christians, in large measure because of their genuine love for the Bible, have declared that there can be no more authorized scripture beyond the Bible. In thus pronouncing the canon of revelation closed, our friends in some other faiths shut the door on divine expression that we in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hold dear: the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and the ongoing guidance received by God’s anointed prophets and apostles.

"Imputing no ill will to those who take such a position, nevertheless we respectfully but resolutely reject such an unscriptural characterization of true Christianity."

Elder Holland then read from the New Testament passage recorded in Revelation 22:18: (that my missionary companion and I had heard at the meeting in the Bronx referred to above):

". . . However, there is now overwhelming consensus among virtually all biblical scholars that this verse applies only to the book of Revelation, not the whole Bible. Those scholars of our day acknowledge a number of New Testament “books” that were almost certainly written after John’s revelation on the Isle of Patmos was received. Included in this category are at least the books of Jude, the three Epistles of John, and probably the entire Gospel of John itself. 1 Perhaps there are even more than these."

"But there is a simpler answer as to why that passage in the final book of the current New Testament cannot apply to the whole Bible. That is because the whole Bible as we know it—one collection of texts bound in a single volume—did not exist when that verse was written. For centuries after John produced his writing, the individual books of the New Testament were in circulation singly or perhaps in combinations with a few other texts but almost never as a complete collection. Of the entire corpus of 5,366 known Greek New Testament manuscripts, only 35 contain the whole New Testament as we now know it, and 34 of those were compiled after A.D. 1000." 2

"The fact of the matter is that virtually every prophet of the Old and New Testament has added scripture to that received by his predecessors. If the Old Testament words of Moses were sufficient, as some could have mistakenly thought them to be, then why, for example, the subsequent prophecies of Isaiah or of Jeremiah, who follows him? To say nothing of Ezekiel and Daniel, of Joel, Amos, and all the rest. If one revelation to one prophet in one moment of time is sufficient for all time, what justifies these many others? What justifies them was made clear by Jehovah Himself when He said to Moses, “My works are without end, and . . . my words . . . never cease.” 4

"One Protestant scholar has inquired tellingly into the erroneous doctrine of a closed canon. He writes: “On what biblical or historical grounds has the inspiration of God been limited to the written documents that the church now calls its Bible? . . . If the Spirit inspired only the written documents of the first century, does that mean that the same Spirit does not speak today in the church about matters that are of significant concern?”5 We humbly ask those same questions.

"Continuing revelation does not demean or discredit existing revelation. The Old Testament does not lose its value in our eyes when we are introduced to the New Testament, and the New Testament is only enhanced when we read the Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. In considering the additional scripture accepted by Latter-day Saints, we might ask: Were those early Christians who for decades had access only to the primitive Gospel of Mark (generally considered the first of the New Testament Gospels to be written)—were they offended to receive the more detailed accounts set forth later by Matthew and Luke, to say nothing of the unprecedented passages and revelatory emphasis offered later yet by John? Surely they must have rejoiced that ever more convincing evidence of the divinity of Christ kept coming. And so do we rejoice."

"Please do not misunderstand. We love and revere the Bible, as Elder M. Russell Ballard taught so clearly from this pulpit just one year ago. 6 The Bible is the word of God. It is always identified first in our canon, our “standard works.” Indeed, it was a divinely ordained encounter with the fifth verse of the first chapter of the book of James that led Joseph Smith to his vision of the Father and the Son, which gave birth to the Restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ in our time. But even then, Joseph knew the Bible alone could not be the answer to all the religious questions he and others like him had.

As he said in his own words, the ministers of his community were contending—sometimes angrily—over their doctrines. “Priest [was] contending against priest, and convert [was contending] against convert . . . in a strife of words and a contest about opinions,” he said. About the only thing these contending religions had in common was, ironically, a belief in the Bible, but, as Joseph wrote, “the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question [regarding which church was true] by an appeal to the Bible.” 7 Clearly the Bible, so frequently described at that time as “common ground,” was nothing of the kind—unfortunately it was a battleground.

Thus one of the great purposes of continuing revelation through living prophets is to declare to the world through additional witnesses that the Bible is true. “This is written,” an ancient prophet said, speaking of the Book of Mormon, “for the intent that ye may believe that,” speaking of the Bible. 8 In one of the earliest revelations received by Joseph Smith, the Lord said, “Behold, I do not bring [the Book of Mormon forth] to destroy [the Bible] but to build it up.”9

One other point needs to be made. Since it is clear that there were Christians long before there was a New Testament or even an accumulation of the sayings of Jesus, it cannot therefore be maintained that the Bible is what makes one a Christian. In the words of esteemed New Testament scholar N. T. Wright, “The risen Jesus, at the end of Matthew’s Gospel, does not say, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth is given to the books you are all going to write,’ but [rather] ‘All authority in heaven and on earth is given to me.’ “10 In other words, “Scripture itself points . . . away from itself and to the fact that final and true authority belongs to God himself.” 11 So the scriptures are not the ultimate source of knowledge for Latter-day Saints. They are manifestations of the ultimate source. The ultimate source of knowledge and authority for a Latter-day Saint is the living God. The communication of those gifts comes from God as living, vibrant, divine revelation. 12

This doctrine lies at the very heart of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and of our message to the world. It dramatizes the significance of a solemn assembly yesterday, in which we sustained Thomas S. Monson as a prophet, a seer, and a revelator. We believe in a God who is engaged in our lives, who is not silent, not absent, nor, as Elijah said of the god of the priests of Baal, is He “[on] a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be [awakened].”13 In this Church, even our young Primary children recite, “We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.”14

In declaring new scripture and continuing revelation, we pray we will never be arrogant or insensitive. But after a sacred vision in a now sacred grove answered in the affirmative the question “Does God exist?” what Joseph Smith and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints force us to face is the next interrogative, which necessarily follows: “Does He speak?” We bring the good news that He does and that He has. With a love and affection born of our Christianity, we invite all to inquire into the wonder of what God has said since biblical times and is saying even now.

In a sense Joseph Smith and his prophetic successors in this Church answer the challenge Ralph Waldo Emerson put to the students of the Harvard Divinity School 170 years ago this coming summer. To that group of the Protestant best and brightest, the great sage of Concord pled that they teach “that God is, not was; that He speaketh, not spake.”15

I testify that the heavens are open. I testify that Joseph Smith was and is a prophet of God, that the Book of Mormon is truly another testament of Jesus Christ. I testify that Thomas S. Monson is God’s prophet, a modern apostle with the keys of the kingdom in his hands, a man upon whom I personally have seen the mantle fall. I testify that the presence of such authorized, prophetic voices and ongoing canonized revelations have been at the heart of the Christian message whenever the authorized ministry of Christ has been on the earth. I testify that such a ministry is on the earth again, and it is found in this, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

In our heartfelt devotion to Jesus of Nazareth as the very Son of God, the Savior of the world, we invite all to examine what we have received of Him, to join with us, drinking deeply at the “well of water springing up into everlasting life,”16 these constantly flowing reminders that God lives, that He loves us, and that He speaks. I express the deepest personal thanks that His works never end and His “words . . . never cease.” I bear witness of such divine loving attention and the recording of it, in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, amen.

1. See Stephen E. Robinson, Are Mormons Christians? (1991), 46. The issue of canon is discussed on pages 45-56, Canon is defined as "an authorittive list of books accepted as Holy Scripture" (Merriam Webster's Collegiate Distionary, 11th ed. (2003), "canon"),
2. See Bruce M. Metzger, Manuscripts of the Greek Bible; An introduction to Greek Paleography (1981), 54-55; see also Are Mormons Christians? 46.
3. See Deuteronomy 4:2, for example.
4. Moses 1:4
5. Lee M. McDonald, The Formation of the Christian Biblical Canon, rev. ed. (1995), 255-56,
6. See "The Miracle of the Holy bible,"
7. Joseph Smith--History 1:6, 12,
8. Mormon 7:9; emphasis added,
9. D&C 10:52; see also D&C 20:11,
10, N.T. Wright, The Last Word; Beyond the Bible Wars to a New Understanding of the Authority of Scripture (2005), xi.
11. Wright, The Last Word, 24,
12. For a full essay on this subject, see Dallin H. Oaks, "Scripture Reading and Revelation," Ensign, Jan. 1995, 6-9,
13. 1 Kings 18:27
14. Articles of Faith: 1:9
15. "An Adress," The Complete Writings of Ralph Waldo Emerson (1929), 45,
16. John 4:14,


This website is not owned by or affiliated with the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (sometimes called the Mormon or LDS Church). The views expressed herein do not necessarily represent the position of the Church.

TO ACCESS NEIL BIRCH'S BLOG INDEX: To Either Read the Full Index Item Which Refers To This BlogPost, (Or To Search The Index For Any Other BlogPost You Desire To Access), After You Have Read All of This Paragraph, Please Scroll Back Up And Click on the Following: (The) Bible The Complete Record of God's Words? - Post 21.When The Picture of Our Savior, Jesus Christ Sitting Next To a Little Boy Comes Onto Your Screen, Please Scroll Down In The Index To Your Target Item Or Use the Alphabetical Scrolling Device (When It Has Been Installed).

"Have You Really Read the Book of Mormon" Legal /Statement. Thank you for visiting. The author retains intellectual property and creative licensing rights. Permission to use or reprint must be given in writing. © Est. 2008 Neil Birch


I deeply appreciate your readership and hope you found very beneficial, that which was presented to you in this blog post.

If you have any questions about what you have read or viewed in this post or in any previous posts of mine, or if you even have a curiosity about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and or its teachings, please e-mail me. I'm Neil and my e-mail address is: If you contact me I'll get back to you just as soon as possible.

I invite you to let your friends and relatives know about this blog if you think they would be interested in it. Please be advised that I have an additional blog. It is in Spanish:  Its content is translated from the English in this blog.

Neil Birch


ldsneighbor said...

Thank you so much for your testimony of The Book of Mormon. I too know that The Book of Mormon is the word of God. It has helped me so much in my everyday life. In it are the words of Christ. Anyone who loves the words of Christ will love The Book of Mormon, if they just open their mind and open their heart and read it.

Neil Birch said...

Dear ldsneighbor: Thank you for bearing your testimony of the Book of Mormon. It has helped both of us in our everyday lives. I'm sure that you, like me, are grateful also that today we have living prophets to give us the words of Christ and who encourage all of us members and nonmembers alike to read all of the scriptures that contain the words of Christ. I especially appreciate your closing words: "if they just open their mind and open their heart and read it. (the Book of Mormon, Another Testament of Christ)

Neil Birch